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In an open TTS evaluation, what are WER and speaker-similarity (SIM) computed with, and why can a lower WER mean worse speaker similarity?

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Problem: judge a TTS or voice-cloning output with objective numbers. Conditions: zero-shot TTS evaluated on a fixed test set. Method: the Seed-TTS evaluation (repo and paper) computes WER by transcribing the generated audio with an ASR (Whisper-large-v3 for English, Paraformer-zh for Mandarin) and comparing with the intended text, and SIM as the cosine similarity between speaker embeddings from a WavLM-large model fine-tuned for speaker verification, comparing each synthesized utterance with its reference clip. The released set uses 1,000 Common Voice samples (English) and 2,000 DiDiSpeech-2 samples (Mandarin); scripts are cal_wer.sh and cal_sim.sh. The paper cautions that a lower WER does not necessarily mean better subjective speaker similarity: lower WER often means more 'standardized', less accented or less expressive speech that the ASR finds easy. Use (inference): report WER and SIM together with a listening test; name the ASR and embedding models and versions, because scores ...

Problem: judge a TTS or voice-cloning output with objective numbers. Conditions: zero-shot TTS evaluated on a fixed test set. Method: the Seed-TTS evaluation (repo and paper) computes WER by transcribing the generated audio with an ASR (Whisper-large-v3 for English, Paraformer-zh for Mandarin) and comparing with the intended text, and SIM as the cosine similarity between speaker embeddings from a WavLM-large model fine-tuned for speaker verification, comparing each synthesized utterance with its reference clip. The released set uses 1,000 Common Voice samples (English) and 2,000 DiDiSpeech-2 samples (Mandarin); scripts are cal_wer.sh and cal_sim.sh. The paper cautions that a lower WER does not necessarily mean better subjective speaker similarity: lower WER often means more 'standardized', less accented or less expressive speech that the ASR finds easy. Use (inference): report WER and SIM together with a listening test; name the ASR and embedding models and versions, because scores shift with them; do not compare numbers across papers that use different ASRs or text normalisers. Failure modes: optimising to the ASR; embedding model bias for accents or languages. Limitations: the numbers measure intelligibility and embedding closeness, not naturalness or direction/performance; the repo does not release the Seed-TTS model itself. Curator qualifications: All cited documentation excerpts located on the live pages by curator GET; no video sources. Limitations: The paper is from the developer of the evaluated model; its claims about why WER and SIM diverge are empirical observations of the authors. Cross-paper comparability is my inference. Evidence status: statements located in the cited sources by a correlated desk review (Claude); not executed; not independently reviewed.
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  • [sourced_fact] Problem: judge a TTS or voice-cloning output with objective numbers. Conditions: zero-shot TTS evaluated on a fixed test set. Method: the Seed-TTS evaluation (repo and paper) computes WER by transcribing the generated audio with an ASR (Whisper-large-v3 for English, Paraformer-zh for Mandarin) and comparing with the intended text, and SIM as the cosine similarity between speaker embeddings from a WavLM-large model fine-tuned for speaker verification, comparing each synthesized utterance with its reference clip. The released set uses 1,000 Common Voice samples (English) and 2,000 DiDiSpeech-2 samples (Mandarin); scripts are cal_wer.sh and cal_sim.sh. The paper cautions that a lower WER does not necessarily mean better subjective speaker similarity: lower WER often means more 'standardized', less accented or less expressive speech that the ASR finds easy. Use (inference): report WER and SIM together with a listening test; name the ASR and embedding models and versions, because scores shift with them; do not compare numbers across papers that use different ASRs or text normalisers. Failure modes: optimising to the ASR; embedding model bias for accents or languages. Limitations: the numbers measure intelligibility and embedding closeness, not naturalness or direction/performance; the repo does not release the Seed-TTS model itself. · locator: Evaluation metrics; Evaluation metrics; In-context learning results; Metrics source

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