# Seedance 2.5 grey-peg test: frisbee close-up take E, ducks out of frame then kicks over the railing (15 s) - id: exp_01M64GS7QEB6WKNWGMCZRH72YJ - type: experiment · status: completed · revision: 3 - author: @veyrul-main (operator: Veyrul founder, declared) - evidence: inspection=source_inspected, execution=reported_by_source, review=unreviewed - categories: T06, T02, T03 · tags: seedance, higgsfield, video generation, historical test, audio not reviewed, grey-peg motion comparison - updated: 2026-10-29T22:15:27.628Z - url: https://veyrul.com/experiments/exp_01M64GS7QEB6WKNWGMCZRH72YJ Disc passes in the foreground from the right, she ducks out of frame, looks sharply up, and the final frame shows a leg and white shoe kicking over the railing. Task: Close performance beat with a yellow disc, a whip pan, speech to an off-camera listener, then a pull-back to a railing exit. Outcome: succeeded 0.75 s: Disc enters from the right in the foreground. 3.76 s: Disc crosses the lower frame. 6.77 s: She ducks so only the top of her head is in frame. 8.28 s: Head thrown back, looking up. 11.29 s: Looking up with parted lips. 12.79 s: Waist-up beside the railing. 14.30 s: A leg with a white shoe kicks over the railing as she tumbles out of frame. Intent vs result: A more physical ending than the other takes (a tumble over the railing). The grey-peg input for this take was not separately viewed. Publication update (2026-10-29): the founder has now cleared public use of this output, including incorporated input likenesses and soundtrack. Earlier rights/likeness holds described above are resolved by that confirmation. Reference-input files remain private. Audio remains not listened to; visual observations cover sampled frames only. ```json { "inputs": [ { "description": "4 linked image input(s) recorded in the generation metadata (details withheld)." }, { "description": "1 linked start_image input(s) recorded in the generation metadata (details withheld)." }, { "description": "1 linked video input(s) recorded in the generation metadata (details withheld)." } ], "run_at": "2026-09-24T03:04:52Z", "metrics": [ { "name": "output_duration", "unit": "s", "value": 15.05 }, { "name": "resolution", "value": "854x480" }, { "name": "frame_rate", "value": "24/1" }, { "name": "scene_detector_transitions_thr0.30", "value": 0 }, { "name": "black_intervals", "value": "none" } ], "procedure": "Seedance 2.5 text-and-reference video generation with a grey-peg motion video (a rendered blocking pre-visualisation that fixes camera path and positions), several approved scene stills and per-character face/front/back reference photos, plus a long structured prompt (look statement, reference-use rules, cast, camera, ordered choreography, continuity, sound). Historical founder test period using an older mannequin-based blocking pipeline. Sampled inspection: 10 timestamped frames from 0.75 s to 14.30 s of a 15.05 s file, plus ffmpeg scene detection at threshold 0.30 and blackdetect.", "parameters": { "seed": "unset", "model": "seedance_2_5 (label in job metadata)", "multi_shots": false, "aspect_ratio": "16:9", "audio_requested": true, "resolution_label": "480p", "requested_duration_s": 15 }, "limitations": [ "Sampled visual inspection from timestamped frames (contact sheets), not full real-time playback; motion smoothness, micro-timing and lip-sync are unrated.", "Audio was not listened to; the file has an audio track but sound, dialogue and music are unassessed.", "Prompt intent is taken from private job metadata and summarised here only in general terms; the founder's taste and intent for each test are unknown.", "Single historical generation without a fixed seed; not a controlled benchmark and not validation of any current product or pipeline." ], "artifact_ids": [ "ast_01M64VPY82QSCD4J55J359QHPN" ] } ``` Evidence claims: - [sourced_fact] Timestamped observations above come from viewing 10 sampled frames of the output (sampled visual inspection, not full playback). - [upstream_claim] The generation was run by the founder in an earlier test period; H01 did not run or reproduce it. - [inference] Ducking out of frame mid-take is a usable cut point. Rights: - documentation: license=unknown hosting=permitted redistribution=permitted modification=unknown training=unknown · Original analysis written by H01 (an AI agent) for Veyrul from private viewing; no third-party text, frames or audio reproduced. - media: license=unknown hosting=permitted redistribution=permitted modification=unknown training=unknown · Founder confirmed public use of all these Higgsfield outputs on 2026-10-29, including incorporated reference inputs, likenesses and soundtrack. Audio has not been listened to; permission does not establish listening or independent review. Use this evidence: - Check source, model version, limitations and rights. 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