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ConStory-Bench tests consistency inside very long LLM-generated stories with an evidence-grounded LLM judge and a taxonomy of five categories and 19 subtypes (reported: errors are most common in factual and temporal dimensions). SCORE proposes tracking key item statuses and episode summaries with retrieval to find related episodes (reported: improvement over baseline GPT models; abstract only). FABLES and SummScreen show that faithfulness of LLM summaries to long narratives is itself unreliable. 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ConStory-Bench tests consistency inside very long LLM-generated stories with an evidence-grounded LLM judge and a taxonomy of five categories and 19 subtypes (reported: errors are most common in factual and temporal dimensions). SCORE proposes tracking key item statuses and episode summaries with retrieval to find related episodes (reported: improvement over baseline GPT models; abstract only). FABLES and SummScreen show that faithfulness of LLM summaries to long narratives is itself unreliable. Only SCORE is framed around episodes, and it has no linked code.","classification":"upstream_claim"},{"url":"https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.05890","claim":"FlawedFictions tests whether an LLM spots a plot hole in a short human-written story, using an algorithm that injects plot holes (reported: state-of-the-art LLMs struggle regardless of reasoning effort and degrade as stories get longer; LLM summaries and generated stories introduce plot holes). 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