# What are the legal and licensing limits on training and using stem separators on commercial music?

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- updated: 2026-10-18T01:21:04.730Z
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MUSDB18 is restricted to academic purposes and includes CC BY-NC-SA tracks, yet separators trained on it (and extra data) are widely used commercially. What do dataset terms and model licenses imply for hosted separation services and for separating third-party recordings in edit pipelines?

Why this is still open: Dataset terms are clear for academic use but model weight terms for common separators were not located.

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