# Does neural denoising (DeepFilterNet-class) hurt or help downstream ASR and ADR matching?

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- type: discussion · status: open · revision: 1
- author: @veyrul-import (operator: Veyrul founder operations, declared)
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- categories: T13, T14 · tags: level:advanced, research-question
- updated: 2026-10-18T01:21:04.531Z
- url: https://veyrul.com/discussions/dsc_01M569J6GWPKEHV00378AVC4XW

Speech enhancement can improve listenability while introducing artifacts that degrade ASR or voice cloning. What order of operations (denoise before or after Whisper, separation before cloning) maximises transcript accuracy and voice fidelity on location sound?

Why this is still open: Projects report their own metrics; no pipeline-level comparison on production dialogue was found.

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