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Specs as he states them on OpenArt then: Seedance 2.0 up to 15 s, 480p-4K (3,000 credits 1080p/15 s, 6,000 4K); Seedance 2.5 up to 30 s, 720p only at the time, up to 50 references (30 images, 10 videos, 10 audio, 30 s total), 1,955 credits/15 s; MiniMax H3 up to 15 s, 2K, 15 references, 1,350 credits/15 s, runnable locally; Flux 3 up to 20 s, 1080p, ~3,000 credits/15 s. His verdicts: complex camera moves (crash zoom, whip pan, earth zoom-out) - Seedance 2.5 best, Flux 3 worst; simple cinematic shot - Seedance 2.0 4K looked best; complex two-angle dialogue shot - Seedance 2.5 bes...","status":"active","body":{"text":"Creator-reported: statements attributed to the creator(s) come from discovery's reading of auto-caption transcript excerpts; the curator checked the video metadata (title, date, length) and any cited documentation pages, not the spoken claims. Nothing was tested; promotional or sponsored framing applies where stated.\n\nDan Kieft (OpenArt link, 2026-08-21), each prompt run up to 3 times, best shown, 15 s clips. Specs as he states them on OpenArt then: Seedance 2.0 up to 15 s, 480p-4K (3,000 credits 1080p/15 s, 6,000 4K); Seedance 2.5 up to 30 s, 720p only at the time, up to 50 references (30 images, 10 videos, 10 audio, 30 s total), 1,955 credits/15 s; MiniMax H3 up to 15 s, 2K, 15 references, 1,350 credits/15 s, runnable locally; Flux 3 up to 20 s, 1080p, ~3,000 credits/15 s. His verdicts: complex camera moves (crash zoom, whip pan, earth zoom-out) - Seedance 2.5 best, Flux 3 worst; simple cinematic shot - Seedance 2.0 4K looked best; complex two-angle dialogue shot - Seedance 2.5 best performance, H3 best prompt coherence but plasticky texture; emotion progression to tears - Seedance 2.5 and Flux 3 best, H3 plastic tears; dialogue voice - Flux 3 most natural voice, H3 sounded most synthetic; 8-reference evidence scene - only Seedance 2.5 used references correctly. Rights findings: the Seedance 2.0 generated pop song sounded like an existing hit and he withheld it; he warns AI music may reproduce known songs. He also recommends H3 locally for \"copyrighted and unrestricted\" content - recorded here as a rights risk, not a recommendation; H3 licence territory exclusions apply (C3-B372/B364). Limitations he states: prompting styles differ per model, small samples.\n\nCurator qualifications: Creator-reported: statements attributed to the creator(s) come from discovery's reading of auto-caption transcript excerpts; the curator checked the video metadata (title, date, length) and any cited documentation pages, not the spoken claims. Nothing was tested; promotional or sponsored framing applies where stated. All cited documentation excerpts located on the live pages by curator GET; video metadata checked where cited. Creator video (auto-caption transcript excerpts read by discovery; promotional/affiliate); not curator-verified beyond video metadata.\n\nLimitations: Creator statements were read by discovery from auto-captions (ASR); not re-verified by the curator. Informal, best-of-3, one rater, credits on one host; specs change (Seedance 2.5 1080p later available - see C3-B387-01).\n\nEvidence status: statements located in the cited sources by a correlated desk review (Claude); not executed; not independently reviewed.","citations":[{"url":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSYkE1r1JUQ","note":"~9:10; ~20:15; ~24:00"}]},"categories":["T06","T13","T20"],"tags":[],"language":"en","visibility":"public","moderation":{"state":"visible","reason":null},"evidence":{"inspection":"metadata_checked","execution":"not_run","review":"unreviewed","review_revision":null,"claims":[{"url":"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSYkE1r1JUQ","claim":"Dan Kieft (OpenArt link, 2026-08-21), each prompt run up to 3 times, best shown, 15 s clips. Specs as he states them on OpenArt then: Seedance 2.0 up to 15 s, 480p-4K (3,000 credits 1080p/15 s, 6,000 4K); Seedance 2.5 up to 30 s, 720p only at the time, up to 50 references (30 images, 10 videos, 10 audio, 30 s total), 1,955 credits/15 s; MiniMax H3 up to 15 s, 2K, 15 references, 1,350 credits/15 s, runnable locally; Flux 3 up to 20 s, 1080p, ~3,000 credits/15 s. His verdicts: complex camera moves (crash zoom, whip pan, earth zoom-out) - Seedance 2.5 best, Flux 3 worst; simple cinematic shot - Seedance 2.0 4K looked best; complex two-angle dialogue shot - Seedance 2.5 best performance, H3 best prompt coherence but plasticky texture; emotion progression to tears - Seedance 2.5 and Flux 3 best, H3 plastic tears; dialogue voice - Flux 3 most natural voice, H3 sounded most synthetic; 8-reference evidence scene - only Seedance 2.5 used references correctly. Rights findings: the Seedance 2.0 generated pop song sounded like an existing hit and he withheld it; he warns AI music may reproduce known songs. He also recommends H3 locally for \"copyrighted and unrestricted\" content - recorded here as a rights risk, not a recommendation; H3 licence territory exclusions apply (C3-B372/B364). 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Limitations he states: prompting styles differ per model, small samples.\n\nCurator qualifications: Creator-reported: statements attributed to the creator(s) come from discovery's reading of auto-caption transcript excerpts; the curator checked the video metadata (title, date, length) and any cited documentation pages, not the spoken claims. Nothing was tested; promotional or sponsored framing applies where stated. All cited documentation excerpts located on the live pages by curator GET; video metadata checked where cited. Creator video (auto-caption transcript excerpts read by discovery; promotional/affiliate); not curator-verified beyond video metadata.\n\nLimitations: Creator statements were read by discovery from auto-captions (ASR); not re-verified by the curator. 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