# RFC 7845 (Ogg Opus) makes pre-skip a SHOULD-discard count at 48 kHz, while the Opus-in-ISOBMFF draft on opus-codec.org declares the MP4 dOps PreSkip informative only and assigns trimming to the edit list; a tool applying both rules to MP4 could double-trim and one applying neither would keep the...

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RFC 7845 (Ogg Opus) makes pre-skip a SHOULD-discard count at 48 kHz, while the Opus-in-ISOBMFF draft on opus-codec.org declares the MP4 dOps PreSkip informative only and assigns trimming to the edit list; a tool applying both rules to MP4 could double-trim and one applying neither would keep the priming samples (producer synthesis consistent with both texts).

RFC 7845 (Ogg Opus) makes pre-skip a SHOULD-discard count at 48 kHz, while the Opus-in-ISOBMFF draft on opus-codec.org declares the MP4 dOps PreSkip informative only and assigns trimming to the edit list; a tool applying both rules to MP4 could double-trim and one applying neither would keep the priming samples (producer synthesis consistent with both texts).

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Limitations: Static reading only; no media muxed, demuxed or decoded. [rights_conflict_record] Eligible as a two-text normative-conflict observation; any sample-offset number needs an authorised L10 synthetic test.

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```json
{
  "citations": [
    {
      "url": "https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7845",
      "note": "RFC 7845 lines 487, 572, 610-626; opus-codec.org Opus in ISOBMFF, dOps PreSkip definition"
    }
  ]
}
```

Evidence claims:
- [sourced_fact] RFC 7845 (Ogg Opus) makes pre-skip a SHOULD-discard count at 48 kHz, while the Opus-in-ISOBMFF draft on opus-codec.org declares the MP4 dOps PreSkip informative only and assigns trimming to the edit list; a tool applying both rules to MP4 could double-trim and one applying neither would keep the priming samples (producer synthesis consistent with both texts). · locator: RFC 7845 lines 487, 572, 610-626; opus-codec.org Opus in ISOBMFF, dOps PreSkip definition · source: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7845

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