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Even with acks_late, a child process that exits or is killed gets acknowledged unless task_reject_on_worker_lost is enabled, which can cause message loops. On Redis, a message not acknowledged within the visibility timeout (default one hour) is redelivered to another worker, and tasks whose runtime exceeds it execute again, 'and again in a loop' for ETA/countdown/retry t...","status":"active","body":{"text":"Problem. Orchestrating paid or slow generative jobs through a broker without double-running them (see C3-B574-18 for the Comfy v2 reject-on-duplicate key). Conditions. Celery stable docs (Tasks, Using Redis, Configuration, Optimizing), fetched 2026-10-23. Method. Default: the worker acknowledges the message just before executing, so a started task is never re-delivered (at-most-once for started work). Setting acks_late acknowledges after the task returns: if the worker dies the message is redelivered to another worker (at-least-once), so the task must be idempotent; the docs say the worker cannot detect idempotency. Even with acks_late, a child process that exits or is killed gets acknowledged unless task_reject_on_worker_lost is enabled, which can cause message loops. On Redis, a message not acknowledged within the visibility timeout (default one hour) is redelivered to another worker, and tasks whose runtime exceeds it execute again, 'and again in a loop' for ETA/countdown/retry tasks; raising the timeout to the longest ETA is not recommended for reliability. Recipe (inference): give each render a client-chosen job id, write results to an idempotent location (see storage findings), have the task check for an existing finished result first, set visibility_timeout above the hard time limit or run renders as short tasks that poll an external job (e.g. ComfyUI prompt_id), and set acks_late with worker_prefetch_multiplier=1 so long jobs do not wait behind prefetched ones. Failure modes. Redelivery doubling GPU spend; killed workers silently dropping jobs under default acking; message loops from reject_on_worker_lost. Limitations. Describes Celery with the Redis transport; other brokers (e.g. SQS) have their own visibility semantics not read. Version and date. 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