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Reference discipline (R1): with many reference slots, describe each reference in the prompt and GROUP references that show the same person/object from different angles (separate angle images rather than one multi-angle sheet); state the host's subject rule (he cites \"one to eight distinct subjects\" across subject references); add a \"keep consistent\" block (format clarity e.g. handheld phone, colour and grain, lighting, shadow, mood) and explicit exclusions (\"no brand logos, extra people, text on screen\"). Realism (R2): make the still cinematic first (e.g. 35 mm, f/1.8, shallow depth of field, fine film grain, muted desaturated ...","status":"active","body":{"text":"Creator-reported: statements attributed to the creator(s) come from discovery's reading of auto-caption transcript excerpts; the curator checked the video metadata (title, date, length) and any cited documentation pages, not the spoken claims. 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Older comparison (R4, Dec 2025): one animation prompt across many generators - he noted Chinese-trained models tended to add Asian characters unless ethnicity was specified (a bias to control explicitly), and rated Sora 2 and Veo strong on audio. Beginner advice (R5): an all-in-one host simplifies model switching; base prompt formulas on vendor guides (he cites Google's).\n\nCurator qualifications: Creator-reported: statements attributed to the creator(s) come from discovery's reading of auto-caption transcript excerpts; the curator checked the video metadata (title, date, length) and any cited documentation pages, not the spoken claims. Nothing was tested; promotional or sponsored framing applies where stated. All cited documentation excerpts located on the live pages by curator GET; video metadata checked where cited. 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