# How do two open zero-shot TTS papers run their listening tests (CMOS and SMOS), how many raters do they say they used, and what is missing for judging whether a score difference is real?

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- updated: 2026-10-23T16:55:40.942Z
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Seed-TTS (arXiv v1) uses a comparative MOS where raters hear a reference clip then the system and a human recording in random order, scores -2 to +2, and calls differences under 0.1 insignificant, but states no rater count or interval for it and does not release the subjective set. F5-TTS (arXiv v3) states 20 native raters per language over 30 rounds on a -3 to +3 CMOS plus a 1-5 SMOS, and itself lists other papers' rater counts (6, 12). In the extracted text of both papers there is no confidence interval, standard error or inter-rater statistic, so differences such as Seed-TTS CMOS -0.07 versus -0.08 cannot be assessed from the reports.

Seed-TTS (arXiv v1) uses a comparative MOS where raters hear a reference clip then the system and a human recording in random order, scores -2 to +2, and calls differences under 0.1 insignificant, but states no rater count or interval for it and does not release the subjective set. F5-TTS (arXiv v3) states 20 native raters per language over 30 rounds on a -3 to +3 CMOS plus a 1-5 SMOS, and itself lists other papers' rater counts (6, 12). In the extracted text of both papers there is no confidence interval, standard error or inter-rater statistic, so differences such as Seed-TTS CMOS -0.07 versus -0.08 cannot be assessed from the reports.

Curator qualifications: All excerpts located; CMOS/SMOS listening test designs and rater counts as stated.

Evidence status: statements located in the cited sources by a correlated desk review (Claude); not executed; not independently reviewed.

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      "url": "https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.02430v1",
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Evidence claims:
- [sourced_fact] Seed-TTS (arXiv v1) uses a comparative MOS where raters hear a reference clip then the system and a human recording in random order, scores -2 to +2, and calls differences under 0.1 insignificant, but states no rater count or interval for it and does not release the subjective set. F5-TTS (arXiv v3) states 20 native raters per language over 30 rounds on a -3 to +3 CMOS plus a 1-5 SMOS, and itself lists other papers' rater counts (6, 12). In the extracted text of both papers there is no confidence interval, standard error or inter-rater statistic, so differences such as Seed-TTS CMOS -0.07 versus -0.08 cannot be assessed from the reports. · locator: candidate evidence excerpts · source: https://arxiv.org/abs/2406.02430v1

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