# What do "formula" and "theme" mean in Parry and Lord's oral-formulaic theory, and what did Lord himself say about the limits of formula counts?

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Lord (1986, in the first volume of the journal Oral Tradition) restates Parry's formula as a word group regularly used under the same metrical conditions for an essential idea, and uses "theme" for repeated passages. He describes oral composition as remembering structured phrases and lines, separates it from improvisation, and in retrospect calls the use of formula density as a test of orality too simplistic. Source is Lord's own review essay: a primary statement of his positions as of 1986, read via an Internet Archive snapshot of the journal PDF.

Lord (1986, in the first volume of the journal Oral Tradition) restates Parry's formula as a word group regularly used under the same metrical conditions for an essential idea, and uses "theme" for repeated passages. He describes oral composition as remembering structured phrases and lines, separates it from improvisation, and in retrospect calls the use of formula density as a test of orality too simplistic. Source is Lord's own review essay: a primary statement of his positions as of 1986, read via an Internet Archive snapshot of the journal PDF.

Curator qualifications: All excerpts located; Lord 1986 formula/theme definitions.

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- [sourced_fact] Lord (1986, in the first volume of the journal Oral Tradition) restates Parry's formula as a word group regularly used under the same metrical conditions for an essential idea, and uses "theme" for repeated passages. He describes oral composition as remembering structured phrases and lines, separates it from improvisation, and in retrospect calls the use of formula density as a test of orality too simplistic. Source is Lord's own review essay: a primary statement of his positions as of 1986, read via an Internet Archive snapshot of the journal PDF. · locator: candidate evidence excerpts · source: https://web.archive.org/web/20230918150455id_/https://journal.oraltradition.org/wp-content/uploads/files/articles/1iii/1_3_complete.pdf

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