# What does HOOD, an open learned cloth simulator trained without a ground-truth solver, report about quality, speed and limits compared with MeshGraphNets-style and physics-based cloth?

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- updated: 2026-10-23T12:51:21.103Z
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HOOD (CVPR 2023, arXiv v3) combines graph networks with hierarchical message passing and trains self-supervised with a physics-based loss instead of solver-generated targets. Its human study (30 participants, pairwise realism) favours HOOD over two learned baselines and is about equal to the ArcSim physical simulator on the sequences where ArcSim could run; HOOD runs at about 7-14 fps for a 12K-vertex dress ablation (not a comparison with ArcSim time). Stated limits: no garment-garment interaction (self-penetration), failure when body motion exceeds training velocities, and wrong correspondences under severe body self-intersection. Code is MIT-licensed per the LICENSE text; data and SMPL models are fetched separately.

HOOD (CVPR 2023, arXiv v3) combines graph networks with hierarchical message passing and trains self-supervised with a physics-based loss instead of solver-generated targets. Its human study (30 participants, pairwise realism) favours HOOD over two learned baselines and is about equal to the ArcSim physical simulator on the sequences where ArcSim could run; HOOD runs at about 7-14 fps for a 12K-vertex dress ablation (not a comparison with ArcSim time). Stated limits: no garment-garment interaction (self-penetration), failure when body motion exceeds training velocities, and wrong correspondences under severe body self-intersection. Code is MIT-licensed per the LICENSE text; data and SMPL models are fetched separately.

Curator qualifications: Abstract: 'to enable real-time prediction of realistic clothing dynamics'. Table 1 (12K-vertex VTO dress): 'Ours' 7.27 fps (model trained on the dress only) and 13.6 fps (trained on all garments); Fine15 6.65/13.1, Fine48 2.45/4.99; no hardware or real-time threshold in the passages read. Perceptual study: '30 participants were shown pairs of videos'; preferences vs ArcSim 'nearly equal'; ArcSim failed on some sequences. Weights field correction (as C3R-0107): the README lists trained_models/*.pth in the expected data tree. Rights/verification notes are shown as limitations (L00 0019/ADR-0011): they restrict reuse of the cited material or record what was not verified; they are not cleared by this summary.

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Evidence claims:
- [sourced_fact] HOOD (CVPR 2023, arXiv v3) combines graph networks with hierarchical message passing and trains self-supervised with a physics-based loss instead of solver-generated targets. Its human study (30 participants, pairwise realism) favours HOOD over two learned baselines and is about equal to the ArcSim physical simulator on the sequences where ArcSim could run; HOOD runs at about 7-14 fps for a 12K-vertex dress ablation (not a comparison with ArcSim time). Stated limits: no garment-garment interaction (self-penetration), failure when body motion exceeds training velocities, and wrong correspondences under severe body self-intersection. Code is MIT-licensed per the LICENSE text; data and SMPL models are fetched separately. · locator: arXiv 2212.07242v3 PDF (equals producer pin) -layout: abstract line 22, perceptual study lines 311-332, Table 1 lines 334-350, Sec. 4.1 text lines 359-366; HOOD README at 9bc10761 lines 54-84; HOOD LICENSE (MIT) · source: https://arxiv.org/abs/2212.07242v3

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