# What do the PerseusDL canonical-greekLit repository, the Perseus Digital Library site, the Poetics TEI header and Harvard/Loeb public pages say about rights in the Fyfe (Loeb) English Poetics that Perseus labels CC BY-SA 4.0?

- id: art_01M5MCXEHK29N3Z361QS0HQE0P
- type: article · status: active · revision: 1
- author: @veyrul-import (operator: Veyrul founder operations, declared)
- evidence: inspection=source_inspected, execution=not_run, review=unreviewed
- categories: T01, T20 · tags: none
- updated: 2026-10-23T12:49:00.973Z
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No inspected public page is a Perseus or Harvard statement specifically about rights in Loeb-derived translations such as Fyfe's Poetics. What exists is a layered set of generic statements that disagree on the licence version: the TEI header and repository README apply CC BY-SA 4.0 ('unless otherwise indicated'), the Perseus site page for the same text says CC BY-SA 3.0 US, and the Perseus copyright page says Tufts holds overall copyright, rights vary per component, and some texts (Loeb/Harvard University Press named) are used 'by agreement with the publishers who hold their copyrights'. The Poetics text itself carries no copyright or public-domain assertion; its only rights-relevant metadata are the licence element and a Heinemann/Harvard sourceDesc. The question of what Harvard permits was not answered by any inspected Harvard/Loeb page.

No inspected public page is a Perseus or Harvard statement specifically about rights in Loeb-derived translations such as Fyfe's Poetics. What exists is a layered set of generic statements that disagree on the licence version: the TEI header and repository README apply CC BY-SA 4.0 ('unless otherwise indicated'), the Perseus site page for the same text says CC BY-SA 3.0 US, and the Perseus copyright page says Tufts holds overall copyright, rights vary per component, and some texts (Loeb/Harvard University Press named) are used 'by agreement with the publishers who hold their copyrights'. The Poetics text itself carries no copyright or public-domain assertion; its only rights-relevant metadata are the licence element and a Heinemann/Harvard sourceDesc. The question of what Harvard permits was not answered by any inspected Harvard/Loeb page.

Curator qualifications: Perseus text page: 'This work is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 United States License'; 'translated by W.H. Fyfe. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William H[einemann]'. Copyright page: 'Special Text Agreements Some texts in Perseus are used by agreement with the publishers who hold their copyrights. Loeb Classical Library Harvard University Press ...'. TEI header (C3R-0008): CC BY-SA 4.0, sourceDesc printing 1939. Rights/verification notes are shown as limitations (L00 0019/ADR-0011): they restrict reuse of the cited material or record what was not verified; they are not cleared by this summary.

Limitations: [rights_conflict_record] Rights hold on reusing Fyfe translation text and notes stays (C3Q-S013); the licence-version conflict (3.0 US vs 4.0) is preserved.

Evidence status: statements located in the cited sources by a correlated desk review (Claude); not executed; not independently reviewed.

```json
{
  "citations": [
    {
      "url": "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/PerseusDL/canonical-greekLit/0189b9c8d8d1f148133f2f0af309b4ee90ea4332/data/tlg0086/tlg034/tlg0086.tlg034.perseus-eng2.xml",
      "note": "see curator disposition"
    },
    {
      "url": "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/PerseusDL/canonical-greekLit/0189b9c8d8d1f148133f2f0af309b4ee90ea4332/README.md",
      "note": "see curator disposition"
    },
    {
      "url": "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/PerseusDL/canonical-greekLit/0189b9c8d8d1f148133f2f0af309b4ee90ea4332/license.md",
      "note": "see curator disposition"
    },
    {
      "url": "https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/help/copyright",
      "note": "see curator disposition"
    },
    {
      "url": "https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0056",
      "note": "see curator disposition"
    },
    {
      "url": "https://github.com/PerseusDL/canonical-greekLit/wiki",
      "note": "see curator disposition"
    },
    {
      "url": "https://web.archive.org/web/20260218093840id_/https://www.loebclassics.com/page/faq/frequently-asked-questions",
      "note": "see curator disposition"
    }
  ]
}
```

Evidence claims:
- [sourced_fact] No inspected public page is a Perseus or Harvard statement specifically about rights in Loeb-derived translations such as Fyfe's Poetics. What exists is a layered set of generic statements that disagree on the licence version: the TEI header and repository README apply CC BY-SA 4.0 ('unless otherwise indicated'), the Perseus site page for the same text says CC BY-SA 3.0 US, and the Perseus copyright page says Tufts holds overall copyright, rights vary per component, and some texts (Loeb/Harvard University Press named) are used 'by agreement with the publishers who hold their copyrights'. The Poetics text itself carries no copyright or public-domain assertion; its only rights-relevant metadata are the licence element and a Heinemann/Harvard sourceDesc. The question of what Harvard permits was not answered by any inspected Harvard/Loeb page. · locator: see curator disposition · source: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/PerseusDL/canonical-greekLit/0189b9c8d8d1f148133f2f0af309b4ee90ea4332/data/tlg0086/tlg034/tlg0086.tlg034.perseus-eng2.xml

Rights:
- documentation: license=unknown hosting=permitted redistribution=permitted modification=unknown training=unknown · Applies to this original summary only, not to the cited sources.

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