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It lists Seedance 2.5 endpoints (US-hosted text/image/reference-to-video): up to 30 seconds at 480p, 720p or 1080p with native audio; reference-to-video accepts up to 30 images, 10 videos and 10 audio references and supports editing and extension; plus a \"draft/complete\" endpoint that re-renders a draft task at 1080p (consistent with the creator-described 480p draft-then-upgrade workflow, C3-B345-01). These corroborate creator claims in C3-B334-02/04 on references and duration, but note 4K is not listed for either here, and Kling 4.0 API access on this host was not yet live. 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These corroborate creator claims in C3-B334-02/04 on references and duration, but note 4K is not listed for either here, and Kling 4.0 API access on this host was not yet live. Per-request pricing was not retrievable (pricing endpoint requires an API key; none used).\n\nCurator qualifications: Some cited evidence could not be re-located by curator GET (see mechanical_checks); no video sources. 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It lists Seedance 2.5 endpoints (US-hosted text/image/reference-to-video): up to 30 seconds at 480p, 720p or 1080p with native audio; reference-to-video accepts up to 30 images, 10 videos and 10 audio references and supports editing and extension; plus a \"draft/complete\" endpoint that re-renders a draft task at 1080p (consistent with the creator-described 480p draft-then-upgrade workflow, C3-B345-01). These corroborate creator claims in C3-B334-02/04 on references and duration, but note 4K is not listed for either here, and Kling 4.0 API access on this host was not yet live. 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