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Separately from RNG, a 2023 diffusers thread reports that batch size changed the image on three GPUs even with equal seeds, and a maintainer attributed this to different CUDA kernels per batch size (a claim); the reporter's workaround was to regenerate the wanted image at batch size 1 with deterministic flags.\n\nCurator correction 2026-10-23 (discovery audit record C3-B681-09; sources re-fetched 2026-10-23, excerpts re-located by curator GET): Problem. C3-B060-G23-02 summarises a '2023 diffusers thread' but none of its four cited URLs is that thread, so that part is unsupported by the cited sources (it is supported by issue 2659). Correction type: (d) plus (c). Method. 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Fetched 2026-10-23.\n\nCurator qualifications: 2659 (opened 2023-03-13; 'generated images are slightly varying with batch size', RTX 3090, fp16): contributor kig: 'The batch size does effect the generated images, at least without vae slicing, since the vae has full-batch layers'; patrickvonplaten (CONTRIBUTOR): 'different batch sizes tend to use different kernels in CUDA which can lead to different numerical outputs'; reporter later needed torch.use_deterministic_algorithms(True) and CUBLAS_WORKSPACE_CONFIG=:16:8 under PyTorch 2.0; maintainer: 'I don't think we can do more than ... use_deterministic_algorithms(True)'. 6222: yiyixuxu 'I don't think it is a bug' (12-19) -> 'actually I think it might be a bug ... if we pass a list of generators, we should be able to reproduce any of the single image output' (12-20) -> cannot reproduce (12-28); patrickvonplaten 'Yes it's a bug' (12-26, 01-11) -> 'I don't think we have a bug' (01-17); then marked stale. 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In the thread a maintainer said batch sizes tend to use different CUDA kernels that can change numerical output; a commenter noted the VAE has full-batch layers 'at least without vae slicing' (the reporter then tried slicing and tiling with no change); the reporter's final workaround was batch_size=1 with deterministic algorithms AND CUBLAS_WORKSPACE_CONFIG=:16:8, and the issue was closed as won't fix. The candidate omits the CUBLAS setting and the VAE-batch hypothesis. Limitations. Anecdotal thread on diffusers 0.16-era and torch 2.0. Version and date. Fetched 2026-10-23.\n\nCurator qualifications: 2659 (opened 2023-03-13; 'generated images are slightly varying with batch size', RTX 3090, fp16): contributor kig: 'The batch size does effect the generated images, at least without vae slicing, since the vae has full-batch layers'; patrickvonplaten (CONTRIBUTOR): 'different batch sizes tend to use different kernels in CUDA which can lead to different numerical outputs'; reporter later needed torch.use_deterministic_algorithms(True) and CUBLAS_WORKSPACE_CONFIG=:16:8 under PyTorch 2.0; maintainer: 'I don't think we can do more than ... use_deterministic_algorithms(True)'. 6222: yiyixuxu 'I don't think it is a bug' (12-19) -> 'actually I think it might be a bug ... if we pass a list of generators, we should be able to reproduce any of the single image output' (12-20) -> cannot reproduce (12-28); patrickvonplaten 'Yes it's a bug' (12-26, 01-11) -> 'I don't think we have a bug' (01-17); then marked stale. 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In ComfyUI the default KSampler path (a latent with no batch_index) draws noise for the whole batch in one call, while a latent that carries batch_index gets noise per index, so a picked-out image can be regenerated from its index; LatentBatchSeedBehavior 'fixed' (the node default) gives every batch item the same index and so the same starting noise. Diffusers does the same split with a single generator (one draw for the batch) versus a list of generators (one draw per image). Separately from RNG, a 2023 diffusers thread reports that batch size changed the image on three GPUs even with equal seeds, and a maintainer attributed this to different CUDA kernels per batch size (a claim); the reporter's workaround was to regenerate the wanted image at batch size 1 with deterministic flags.","evidence":{"claims":[{"url":"https://github.com/Comfy-Org/ComfyUI","claim":"In ComfyUI the default KSampler path (a latent with no batch_index) draws noise for the whole batch in one call, while a latent that carries batch_index gets noise per index, so a picked-out image can be regenerated from its index; LatentBatchSeedBehavior 'fixed' (the node default) gives every batch item the same index and so the same starting noise. Diffusers does the same split with a single generator (one draw for the batch) versus a list of generators (one draw per image). 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