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What body and gesture conventions are documented for the naqqal, what changed from the old manual to modern practice, and how do two named masters differ in one battle scene?

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Khosravi (2025) compares recorded performances of the Rostam-Sohrab second wrestling scene by Masters Saeedi (film c.2000) and Torabi (film 2009) using Muller's (2024) co-speech gesture toolbox. She counts 23 gestures for Torabi (5 functional, 18 depictive) and 22 for Saeedi (7 functional, 15 depictive); Torabi stresses the physical fight and fate (the 'wheel of fortune'); Saeedi uses more abstract and functional gestures, stresses Sohrab's resistance, repeats the phrase 'he only bent Sohrab's back', and presents the death as a tree felled by wind, making Rostam accountable. The article's Persian background reports that the historical manual Taraz al-Akhbar (cited via Haj Seyed Javadi) tells the storyteller not to illustrate with body gestures, with limited battle-scene exceptions, so modern gesture practice contradicts the manual's rule as quoted.

Khosravi (2025) compares recorded performances of the Rostam-Sohrab second wrestling scene by Masters Saeedi (film c.2000) and Torabi (film 2009) using Muller's (2024) co-speech gesture toolbox. She counts 23 gestures for Torabi (5 functional, 18 depictive) and 22 for Saeedi (7 functional, 15 depictive); Torabi stresses the physical fight and fate (the 'wheel of fortune'); Saeedi uses more abstract and functional gestures, stresses Sohrab's resistance, repeats the phrase 'he only bent Sohrab's back', and presents the death as a tree felled by wind, making Rostam accountable. The article's Persian background reports that the historical manual Taraz al-Akhbar (cited via Haj Seyed Javadi) tells the storyteller not to illustrate with body gestures, with limited battle-scene exceptions, so modern gesture practice contradicts the manual's rule as quoted. Curator qualifications: Verified: Torabi 23 gestures (5 functional, 18 depictive); Saeedi 22 (7 functional, 15 depictive); Saeedi recording c. 2000 (IIDCA; the reference list says 'c. 2000s'), Torabi 2009 (Tehran Film Culture Company); Müller (2024) toolbox; 'wheel of fortune'; 'a tree felled by the wind'; 'He only bent Sohrab’s back'; 'Saeedi holds Rostam accountable for Sohrab’s death'. The English section says Torabi 'remained in two fixed horizontal movements for about one minute', the Persian section says about 48 seconds in part five (internal variance, not in the candidate). Persian Table 2 is scrambled by extraction; curator reading (uncertain): functional 7/5, concrete depictive 13/17, abstract depictive 2/1, totals 22/23 (Saeedi/Torabi), consistent with the English counts. Correction to the summary: the manual (Fakhr al-Zamani's Taraz al-Akhbar, via Haj Seyed Javadi 1392) forbids illustrating with body gesture but allows that at the climax of battle scenes the narrator half-rose and stood for a moment, and the quoted rule prescribes sitting on one knee for tales and on both knees at sword and mace moments; the same author is cited (p.22-23) requiring the storyteller to be agile, to imitate the master's movements and to be 'khosh-harakat va shirin-kar' (curator gloss: graceful in movement and pleasing in performance). So 'modern gesture practice contradicts the manual' overstates; the candidate's F2 (separate facts, no continuous change described) is the supported reading. Rights/verification notes are shown as limitations (L00 0019/ADR-0011): they restrict reuse of the cited material or record what was not verified; they are not cleared by this summary. Limitations: [rights_conflict_record] S14 Khosravi 2025 licence conflict (words CC BY-NC vs URL CC BY 4.0; C3R-0073) kept: rights hold on any text reuse. Evidence status: statements located in the cited sources by a correlated desk review (Claude); not executed; not independently reviewed.
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  • [sourced_fact] Khosravi (2025) compares recorded performances of the Rostam-Sohrab second wrestling scene by Masters Saeedi (film c.2000) and Torabi (film 2009) using Muller's (2024) co-speech gesture toolbox. She counts 23 gestures for Torabi (5 functional, 18 depictive) and 22 for Saeedi (7 functional, 15 depictive); Torabi stresses the physical fight and fate (the 'wheel of fortune'); Saeedi uses more abstract and functional gestures, stresses Sohrab's resistance, repeats the phrase 'he only bent Sohrab's back', and presents the death as a tree felled by wind, making Rostam accountable. The article's Persian background reports that the historical manual Taraz al-Akhbar (cited via Haj Seyed Javadi) tells the storyteller not to illustrate with body gestures, with limited battle-scene exceptions, so modern gesture practice contradicts the manual's rule as quoted. · locator: Khosravi 2025 PDF: English abstract, Data collection (p.68), Analysis and discussion (p.69); Persian sections p.73-75 and Table 2 source

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