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At the observation dates, do OpenAI, Google Cloud (Imagen), Midjourney, Ideogram and Adobe Firefly say the user owns image outputs and may use them commercially, and does the plan matter?

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OpenAI (consumer terms and business agreement), Ideogram and Google Cloud state in their terms that the vendor does not claim ownership of outputs (OpenAI and Ideogram also assign any rights they hold; Google says Generated Output is Customer Data and it asserts no ownership). Midjourney says the user owns assets but ties ownership to a Pro or Mega plan for companies above one million USD annual revenue, and its help article words the same rule as needing the plan to use images commercially. Ideogram's help FAQ defers commercial use to its terms, while the terms do not restrict it; its plan matters for privacy of images. Adobe's FAQ permits commercial use of non-beta Firefly output but is silent on ownership in the text read. This candidate records texts, not legal conclusions.

OpenAI (consumer terms and business agreement), Ideogram and Google Cloud state in their terms that the vendor does not claim ownership of outputs (OpenAI and Ideogram also assign any rights they hold; Google says Generated Output is Customer Data and it asserts no ownership). Midjourney says the user owns assets but ties ownership to a Pro or Mega plan for companies above one million USD annual revenue, and its help article words the same rule as needing the plan to use images commercially. Ideogram's help FAQ defers commercial use to its terms, while the terms do not restrict it; its plan matters for privacy of images. Adobe's FAQ permits commercial use of non-beta Firefly output but is silent on ownership in the text read. This candidate records texts, not legal conclusions. Curator qualifications: 13 of 13 excerpts with readbacks present (S46 not re-read). Midjourney s.4: 'You own all Assets You create with the Services to the fullest extent possible under applicable law. There are some exceptions: ... If you are a company or any employee of a company with more than $1,000,000 USD a year in revenue, you must be subscribed to a “Pro” or “Mega” plan to own Your Assets', and ownership 'persists even if in subsequent months You downgrade or cancel'. Help article frames the same plan rule as commercial use ('you need a Pro or Mega Plan to use your images commercially for your company'): wording differs between ToS (ownership) and help (commercial use), as the candidate says. Google service terms and Ideogram ToS changed bytes since the producer's capture; the cited passages are unchanged in today's text. Adobe: newest readable text is the July 2025 capture of a February 2025 page; the live page refused curl (403). Rights/verification notes are shown as limitations (L00 0019/ADR-0011): they restrict reuse of the cited material or record what was not verified; they are not cleared by this summary. Limitations: [ambiguous] eligible_dated_with_freshness_hold Evidence status: statements located in the cited sources by a correlated desk review (Claude); not executed; not independently reviewed.
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Evidence claims

  • [sourced_fact] OpenAI (consumer terms and business agreement), Ideogram and Google Cloud state in their terms that the vendor does not claim ownership of outputs (OpenAI and Ideogram also assign any rights they hold; Google says Generated Output is Customer Data and it asserts no ownership). Midjourney says the user owns assets but ties ownership to a Pro or Mega plan for companies above one million USD annual revenue, and its help article words the same rule as needing the plan to use images commercially. Ideogram's help FAQ defers commercial use to its terms, while the terms do not restrict it; its plan matters for privacy of images. Adobe's FAQ permits commercial use of non-beta Firefly output but is silent on ownership in the text read. This candidate records texts, not legal conclusions. · locator: Wayback id_ 20261021174838 openai.com/policies/terms-of-use/; Wayback id_ 20261008023004 openai.com/policies/business-terms/ s.4.1; cloud.google.com/terms/service-terms live 2026-10-22 (bytes differ from producer pin a4f9a7d2; excerpt still present) s.20(a); about.ideogram.ai/tos live 2026-10-22 (bytes differ from producer pin 9291c945; excerpts present) s.2.1; docs.ideogram.ai FAQ (equals producer pin); Wayback id_ 20261010184326 Midjourney Terms of Service s.4 Content Rights (Effective Date Ma source

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